Thursday, 6 July 2017

Game of Thrones Gossip #23 Margaery Tyrell

Welcome to my Game of Thrones Gossip, where all of us fanatics get the chance to discuss everything we love about this amazing TV series. I did a few spoiler free posts about the series last year but I found that there were other bloggers out there who were also itching to talk more freely about favourite characters and events without spoiling things for those visiting the blog. So I decided to do a whole series of these discussion posts that let us say everything we want and enjoy every second of it! The topics may talk about a death, an event, a character or be season reviews and so on. Please feel free to comment fully and without restriction!

I have to warn you that it is important that you have seen all six seasons before reading any of these posts because these posts and blogger comments will be oozing and exploding spoilers all over the place. If you haven't watched the series and plan to, be warned that it's a bad idea to be here right now! I take no responsibility if you read on and things are spoiled for you nor do I take responsibility for any mistakes on the pages I link you to.

For those of you who stuck with me through my season one posts, thank you loads! Now I'm going to look at the main characters introduced in season two, what our season one characters were doing in season two and looking at all the bests bits. Enjoy the season two posts! 


Margaery Tyrell is the daughter of Mace Tyrell of Highgarden, though she takes after her wily grandmother Olenna. Her brother is the popular knight Loras Tyrell, who is known to be sleeping with Renly Baratheon at Court. After the death of Robert Baratheon, Renly and Loras flee to Highgarden as Ned Stark is arrested. The Tyrells are happy to throw their weight behind Renly as a future King and he agrees to marry Margaery to cement the union. 

"I want to be THE Queen."-Margaery Tyrell

Margaery is ambitious and beautiful, but she is also intelligent. She has married Renly because she wants to be Queen of the Seven Kingdoms and believes that the people would welcome Renly as their new King over his brother Stannis or evil Joffrey, and she would be right. Her family have been in the shadow of the Lannisters for a long time and now they have a real opportunity to rule through her. She also is well aware that Renly is sleeping with her brother and makes it clear to her new husband that she is fine with that arrangement as long as he will give her children to secure the Throne. At his war camp however, she is discovering just how difficult it will be to get Renly to do his duty with her, even when she suggests a threesome with Loras. She is also clever enough to charm anyone she can, being polite and welcoming to Catelyn Stark when she arrives to try and make a deal with Renly. It is a terrible shock to her when Renly is murdered by his brother's dark magic and she is smart enough to get her brother safely away from the scene and back to Highgarden.

Margaery has contempt for Littlefinger and his sly comments but recognises that he has the power to make things happen so it is no real surprise that the Tyrells turn to a new plot to make Margaery Queen. Throwing their lot in with the Lannisters at the Battle of the Blackwater is the turning point in the war, ensuring that Stannis is defeated. This not only gets revenge on Stannis for killing Renly, it gives them the chance to ask for a union of their houses by Margaery marrying Joffrey. The Lannisters are pleased at the idea of having more riches into a joint family and having a Tyrell as Queen ensures their loyalty to the King. It seems like the perfect plan for both sides...but of course nothing ever goes to plan in King's Landing!


Loras Tyrell is a vain but popular Knight at Court who has good jousting skills. He became Renly's squire and then his lover, a somewhat open secret. At the joust in honour of Ned Stark's arrival, he beats The Mountain by using a mare in heat against the bigger man's stallion. The Mountain does not appreciate this tactic and attempts to murder Loras, who is saved by The Hound. He is gracious and grateful enough to declare his feelings to everyone, with the crowd cheering The Hound for his actions.

Loras has always believed that Renly would make a good King and knows that the Tyrell family would back him and suggests that it could happen. Renly does not initially believe him but must warm to the idea as he is ready to take action when Robert is dying. Renly offers his men to Ned to secure Joffrey to stop the Lannisters from taking full control but Ned refuses to act against Robert's wishes while he is alive. Loras and Renly decide to go back to Highgarden to plot from there. This is when Renly declares himself King and marries Margaery.

Renly might be happy to ignore his duties to his wife but Loras is aware that only children will secure their claim, and urges his lover to go to his sister instead. He knows the men are gossiping about the non-consummation of the marraige. He is even less happy to be defeated by Brienne of Tarth in combat in front of everyone, and annoyed to see her given a place of honour in his Kingsguard. He is also somewhat childish in demanding that Robb Stark pay homage himself instead of Catelyn and she is withering in her response about Loras playing at war while Robb fights for real. It does show to me that Loras is a bit spoiled and petulant and indeed in the books, he wants to be the one to ride after The Mountain instead of Beric Dondarrion, sulking when Ned says no. 

I admit that I was unsure whether Loras loved Renly or the power that he could get by being with him, but when Renly is murdered, Loras is distraught and has to be dragged away by his sister and Littlefinger so I do believe his feelings were genuine. It is his thirst for revenge against Stannis that keeps him going and he gets the chance to do that by fighting with Tywin in the Battle of the Blackwater. A grateful Joffrey offers a favour to Loras and he is quick to ask the King to marry his sister. Season Two ends with Margaery taking the place of Sansa as Joffrey's bride-to-be. More on the Tyrell's later.

8 comments:

  1. I think I have said before but the main reason I like GoT so much is the kickass female characters. They are all strong, driven and resourceful. Even the ones that start "weak" like Sansa have incredible ARCs that grow them into something completely different. Margery wasn't the exception. I loved it when she said " "I want to be THE Queen" perfect quote to describe her character arc Chuckles :) BTW... love the houses shields on the sidebar!

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    1. Totally agree about the strong female characters like Olenna, Cersei, Dany, Catelyn, Margaery...it's great to see that they are more than just the typical fantasy love interests! I love Arya's story in particular (post coming in a few weeks) and I enjoyed seeing Sansa grow up from the spoiled little snot she began as! The shields are cool aren't they! Had to pimp up the blog a bit! They are free to use on Pixabay so no copywrite issues.

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  2. I always felt Margaery was seriously dangerous. She was beautiful and seems so nice and naive up front, but is so smart and cunning that you know she is almost always 2 steps ahead of everyone else. She definitely always has her own agenda, that's for sure.

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    1. I enjoyed watching Margaery wrap Joffrey round her little finger-more about that in later posts of course-and she was certainly a very intelligent woman. I love Natalie Dormer-she was brilliant as Anne Boleyn in The Tudors!

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  3. Ooh Margaery. Love her in both the books and the show. I thought Natalie Dormer was fabulous as Marge, but I was less impressed with the portrayal of Loras. I thoguht he was missing something from the books, but maybe it's just me. Then I saw him in Iron Fist on netflix and wasn't crazy about his performance there either, so it might just be me not liking his take on certain roles. Oh well...

    I thought Margaery was a tad more subtle in the books than on the show, but by and large I thought they did a good job with her. Her and her grandmother make a pretty formidable team!

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    1. Natalie Dormer is a great character actress. I loved her portrayal of Anne Boleyn in The Tudors. I've only read the first two books so not seen much of her yet but it's one of the many things I look forward to! I liked the Tyrells...I was so hoping to have seen them take down the Lannisters...

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    2. I like the Tyrells too! They're a fascinating House. And the interesting thing is apparently Willas and Garlan will play a role in future books (assuming we see the future books lol). they had to cut them for the show but Garlan shows up at the wedding feast when Joffrey dies in Storm of Swords and we get a look at him. I would have loved for the Tyrells to take down the Lannister!

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    3. I was gutted to see the end of the Tyrells as a force as I liked them and wanted to see what Margaery had planned next. I had high hopes for her! Jeez I loved watching Joffrey die...one of my favourite moments!

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